[It's actually rather reassuring to know that even here in this world, despite the hell they've been through, Noé still remains steadfast by his side. He flashes his companion a surprisingly soft look, but when the subject turns to Patho-Gen, that expression is devoured by ire.
It's true that together they could manage more than any of them would alone, but their methods are clearly going to clash. Yet in this case it's rather clear who the winners are. Two against one here, Noé. You're out voted.]
What better way to make sure they never have another chance to do so than to get all the information of their operations first, so that it won't be repeated? And Vincent's right: without proper punishment, there will be no deterrent. A few suffering now will save many more from heartbreak later.
That still doesn't mean we should torture or kill them....!
[But. Well. It does seem that Noé is in the minority in that opinion. He probably shouldn't be too surprised. Given how focused Vanitas is on revenge, even back home. Of course, he would also be furious at Patho-Gen here as well. After what he had been put through because of them. It isn't that Noé isn't also furious. He is. More at what had happened to Vanitas than himself, but he still isn't necessarily that cruel to want to do the same in retaliation.]
Maybe we can just find and damage their buildings or something? That way, nobody would get hurt, but we could stop them from being able to torture us.
[ Idly nuzzling along Vanitas’ cheek, thumbs kneading into his hips, Vincent only chuckles. ]
What would stop them from reforming, then? Doing so would provide them an opportunity to rebuild with better technologies - and safeguards. To retaliate, rather than focus their efforts on defense.
Oh, Noé... You still have so much to learn. It's not merely about revenge. It's a tactical approach, meant to keep us and our fellow Augmented safe in the future. Surely even you can understand the value in that...
[He has to laugh, too, though his is a darker, deeper one. But all the same, he reaches out to pet Noé's hair soothingly, nosing at Vincent in turn.]
Don't worry. It isn't as though we'd go on a mindless rampage. ...probably. Hehe. Or we could follow the tried and true method of taking a hostage again.
It's not that I don't want to keep everyone safe. I just...Think we should consider options.
[It isn't necessarily that he has the answers. But he is still much more soft-hearted in comparison to the other two. Less keen on anything too violent or cruel. He pouts, closing an eye as Vanitas reaches to pet his hair. The vampire does want to help, of course. He's just less sure about how to go about it.]
A hostage? One of Patho-Gen's employees? Assuming we could figure out access to get to one of them.
[ Humming doubtfully, the blond’s head lulls in thought. ]
In my experience, the employees which we have access to here in the city know nothing of what happens outside of their scope. We can assume that they have little worth to the entity as a whole. [ A shrug. ] If we can locate the testing facilities, that might be another matter.
[At that Vanitas can't help sighing heavily. Though rather than argue endlessly, he nods.]
I admit there will be times where brute force won't have any merit. Especially when it concerns the likes of the forward-facing employees like those we deal with everyday. Them, there's little point in hurting. We would need to get our hands on a higher up to make it worth our while.
As you say, locating the testing facilities would be most ideal. It nothing else, we could demolish them with our powers. Ah well, for now it's mere venting...
[Which is annoying in and of itself, but, well... One has to make do with what one has.]
Hm. I doubt finding them would be easy. Especially when my memories of that week are kind of not the best. But I'm guessing that was probably on purpose. To stop us from finding those buildings again. But you're right. I doubt the ones we see around otherwise know much more than we do, probably.
[He supposes this may take time, anyway. To plan things out. To decide just how to go about finding out more about this place and all. It isn't like they are in any major rush about it. Really, having been here all of a month or so, if that, he's still settling in and adjusting to everything. And he figures the same for Vanitas.]
[ Who’s arguing? This is discussing strategy, a necessary first step if they’re to be working together. Vincent can sense Vanitas’ frustration, however, and massages his fingers into the other’s hips in some effort to soothe. ]
Hm. You were transported out of the city somehow, and it’s possible that at least one of the employees saw something of interest. It’s still worth pursuing that knowledge, I merely suggest that we manage our expectations - and rather, focus our efforts on interrupting their operations, and their confidence. There’s still a plethora of destruction to be had there, rest assured. [ An all too pleasant smile. ] In fact, we’d be counting on it.
Ugh... Yeah, even though I've been able to recall more and more of what we went through, our arrival there remains a frustrating blank... Damn them and their devious ways--!
[Knowing they were moved outside of the city helps a bit, at least. And he supposes there must be people who saw their transport, though how they identify them is a matter for debate.]
Yes. Even if we can't locate their testing facilities, perhaps we can interrupt their work here. Through whatever means are necessary. [The hands upon his hips help soothe him, though he still grins menacingly.] I want the right people to know the pain and fear we went through...
I remember some bits and pieces a little. But....yes, a lot still seems to be missing. Like how we got there in the first place. Still, so long as the destruction won't hurt people who weren't involved with our kidnapping and torture.
[Because, for all that he can't entirely disagree on the idea of messing with Patho-Gen and wanting to make them pay for what they'd done to Vanitas, let alone everyone else, he doesn't want to involve those who might just happen to work for Patho-Gen and have had no idea about what went on. He would want to be sure that it was their captors.]
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Date: 2025-11-01 06:43 am (UTC)It's true that together they could manage more than any of them would alone, but their methods are clearly going to clash. Yet in this case it's rather clear who the winners are. Two against one here, Noé. You're out voted.]
What better way to make sure they never have another chance to do so than to get all the information of their operations first, so that it won't be repeated? And Vincent's right: without proper punishment, there will be no deterrent. A few suffering now will save many more from heartbreak later.
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Date: 2025-11-01 07:42 am (UTC)[But. Well. It does seem that Noé is in the minority in that opinion. He probably shouldn't be too surprised. Given how focused Vanitas is on revenge, even back home. Of course, he would also be furious at Patho-Gen here as well. After what he had been put through because of them. It isn't that Noé isn't also furious. He is. More at what had happened to Vanitas than himself, but he still isn't necessarily that cruel to want to do the same in retaliation.]
Maybe we can just find and damage their buildings or something? That way, nobody would get hurt, but we could stop them from being able to torture us.
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Date: 2025-11-01 05:01 pm (UTC)What would stop them from reforming, then? Doing so would provide them an opportunity to rebuild with better technologies - and safeguards. To retaliate, rather than focus their efforts on defense.
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Date: 2025-11-01 11:14 pm (UTC)[He has to laugh, too, though his is a darker, deeper one. But all the same, he reaches out to pet Noé's hair soothingly, nosing at Vincent in turn.]
Don't worry. It isn't as though we'd go on a mindless rampage. ...probably. Hehe. Or we could follow the tried and true method of taking a hostage again.
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Date: 2025-11-01 11:41 pm (UTC)[It isn't necessarily that he has the answers. But he is still much more soft-hearted in comparison to the other two. Less keen on anything too violent or cruel. He pouts, closing an eye as Vanitas reaches to pet his hair. The vampire does want to help, of course. He's just less sure about how to go about it.]
A hostage? One of Patho-Gen's employees? Assuming we could figure out access to get to one of them.
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Date: 2025-11-02 12:38 am (UTC)In my experience, the employees which we have access to here in the city know nothing of what happens outside of their scope. We can assume that they have little worth to the entity as a whole. [ A shrug. ] If we can locate the testing facilities, that might be another matter.
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Date: 2025-11-02 12:53 am (UTC)I admit there will be times where brute force won't have any merit. Especially when it concerns the likes of the forward-facing employees like those we deal with everyday. Them, there's little point in hurting. We would need to get our hands on a higher up to make it worth our while.
As you say, locating the testing facilities would be most ideal. It nothing else, we could demolish them with our powers. Ah well, for now it's mere venting...
[Which is annoying in and of itself, but, well... One has to make do with what one has.]
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Date: 2025-11-02 09:07 am (UTC)[He supposes this may take time, anyway. To plan things out. To decide just how to go about finding out more about this place and all. It isn't like they are in any major rush about it. Really, having been here all of a month or so, if that, he's still settling in and adjusting to everything. And he figures the same for Vanitas.]
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Date: 2025-11-03 09:59 pm (UTC)Hm. You were transported out of the city somehow, and it’s possible that at least one of the employees saw something of interest. It’s still worth pursuing that knowledge, I merely suggest that we manage our expectations - and rather, focus our efforts on interrupting their operations, and their confidence. There’s still a plethora of destruction to be had there, rest assured. [ An all too pleasant smile. ] In fact, we’d be counting on it.
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Date: 2025-11-04 12:11 am (UTC)[Knowing they were moved outside of the city helps a bit, at least. And he supposes there must be people who saw their transport, though how they identify them is a matter for debate.]
Yes. Even if we can't locate their testing facilities, perhaps we can interrupt their work here. Through whatever means are necessary. [The hands upon his hips help soothe him, though he still grins menacingly.] I want the right people to know the pain and fear we went through...
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Date: 2025-11-04 09:20 am (UTC)[Because, for all that he can't entirely disagree on the idea of messing with Patho-Gen and wanting to make them pay for what they'd done to Vanitas, let alone everyone else, he doesn't want to involve those who might just happen to work for Patho-Gen and have had no idea about what went on. He would want to be sure that it was their captors.]